- 1 And the universities?
- 2 Nevertheless, many students complain that they can not make a semester abroad, for example because certain courses are not offered regularly.
- 3 The problems are so deep.
- 4 As companies adopt the new Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees?
- 5 What are their results related specifically to the bachelor’s degrees?
- 6 What is its general forecast for the impact of the new degrees on the labor market?
- 7 What about the starting salary of bachelor graduates?
- 8 According to previously earn this her first money.
- 9 So bachelor graduates do not necessarily make their master to the labor market to have opportunities and to be fairly compensated.
- 10 How do you assess the situation for economists?
In expert interview with ours speaks Kolja Briedis the Higher Education Information System (HIS) on the implementation of the Bologna Process, the inflexibility of many universities, the acceptance of the new bachelor’s and master’s degrees and the impact of new statements on the salary of the graduates.
What is meant by the conditions required in the Bologna process stronger practical orientation, and to what extent has been implemented in the fields of study?
The stronger practical it comes to a matter that the students gain practical experience in the study and on the other hand also about to reflect on these experiences still theoretically in connection. To what extent the implementation has taken place, can not be answered generally, for implementing each heavily dependent on the provinces, the respective programs and within each institution. highlight positive you have the colleges, however. They have their undergraduate programs usually designed to seven instead of six semesters to maintain a semester, also from a certain tradition.
And the universities?
Many universities do partly more difficult to incorporate this practical with in the courses. There are of course notable exceptions (eg. B. Mechanical Engineering at TU Darmstadt), in which the students have to deal with practical experience and possible concrete job descriptions apart. It is after all, a development noted that universities try this now more involved in the study program concepts. Now attach more importance to the fact that to deal with it, the students, what the career options with the respective course really is. Especially for courses in which a later position is not so clear, that is important. Overall, the universities have while still a much broader way to go than the colleges. The start has been made. But there must be many more steps.
Another aim of the Bologna Process is to improve the mobility of students, by taking place a better comparison on the credit system, and the recognition of academic experience is simple. now make more students a semester abroad?
It is often claimed that fewer students spend a semester abroad in the Bachelor programs. You have to look at but differentiated. With bachelor’s degree programs, the standard period of study 6-8 Semester in the classic courses, however, there were eight or nine. It is primarily on shorter study duration of bachelor courses. If the period is longer, of course, the absolute numbers of students with a semester abroad are larger.
In a football game over 120 minutes on average fall even more goals than in a game over 90 minutes. So Frequently, there is a misinterpretation of the figures. Many students of the degree courses have made their semester abroad rather the end of their studies. One would thus rather compare how many, for example in the first 6 semesters a semester abroad have made in order to have a comparable measurement group. Adjusted Statistically, the level is comparable to students who do a semester abroad, roughly.
Nevertheless, many students complain that they can not make a semester abroad, for example because certain courses are not offered regularly.
It is true that many universities are not flexible enough, then to allow a student who goes abroad for half a year’s re-entry problems, for example, because some of the courses are offered only every other semester. But that was in the past already that way. but by the change it now falls on stronger. We must not pretend that the conditions for diploma and master times would all have been excellent. That was not at all like that. It really would be a task of the past was to solve these.Now you have the grief, and the Bachelor and Master programs put his finger almost in the old wound.
The problems are so deep.
Yes, some are problems of Bachelor and Master discussed, which have their cause somewhere else.These are historical problems in the system that have not been addressed or not time is, and areas where the universities have a major backlog.
As companies adopt the new Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees?
This is an interesting question to which a clear answer has yet pending. In recent years, there was still a relatively small number of bachelor graduates, of which a high proportion has not yet following a master. So far there is only a small number of bachelor graduates who are employed.The litmus test is therefore still pending. But basically we hear from employers and business organizations an openness in regard to the bachelor and master’s degrees.
Our first results, according to the Bachelor graduates succeed in a career in academic positions entirely. But though it is clear that it has not worked better at FH graduates than university graduates. On the one hand this is due to the strengthening of practical relevance, and secondly, the courses at the colleges are already traditionally shorter. The economy dares these seemingly rather to make the shortening of the course to keep the training but at the same time at a high level. Switching from eight to seven semesters falls UAS but also lighter than the universities, the need to make a conversion from nine or ten to six, seven or eight semesters.
What is its general forecast for the impact of the new degrees on the labor market?
You have to see what happens when the proportions of tilt, so more graduates a Bachelor’s and Master’s degree make than traditional diploma and master’s degrees. but I expect that in the future new jobs and positions are driven by rising Bachelor graduates figures specifically for bachelor graduates and this will establish, z. T. but enter the Bachelor graduates also where the recent graduates did so.
What about the starting salary of bachelor graduates?
Again, only a cautious response possible, we can deduce from the first analysis. Starting salaries are somewhat lower for the bachelor and master’s degree, compared with traditional degrees, but that’s not surprising because they have finally to two years less a studied.
According to previously earn this her first money.
I agree. The key question is therefore how the content in the first one to two years to develop, so up to the time where the graduates of traditional degrees enter the workforce. Meanwhile, the graduates of the new degrees may have received salary increases. So one has to look at the lifetime earnings. The question is still open, but I think it will be a harmonization, especially gradeprofessionals in the early years of significant gains in the content again. That is, a first job, the salary of bachelor graduates tends to be slightly lower, based on lifetime earnings, but it must not be less.
So bachelor graduates do not necessarily make their master to the labor market to have opportunities and to be fairly compensated.
No. In principle, everyone has to decide for themselves anyway. Primarily, the decision depends on what you want to do in the future. There are certain professional fields, in which one comes into it only if you have made the master. This concerns, for example, engineers in research and development or social scientists who want to work in research. With a bachelor’s degree has little chance there. There will also be areas in which at least the master of the standard exit will be. This is particularly true for scientists. In the field of chemistry , the promotion rate is about 90 percent. It would be very surprising if a majority of the chemistry students would stop after the bachelor with the study, finally, there is the promotion of the standard financial statements. That will not change.So one has to consider the individual subjects and the professional ambitions of students.
How do you assess the situation for economists?
For a business administrator who wants to work in controlling, accounting and human resources later, a bachelor’s degree to start a career is probably quite sufficient